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one worshipper described tamerlan, "he's crazy to me. he had anger inside. i can't explain what was in his mind." an aunt describes him as a chechen that became more devout as a muslim in the last couple years. friends of his wife and his brother say he brainwashed them. i'm joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let's set the scene. would it be fair to call dagestan ground zero? >> absolutely. i think it's going to be more and more prevalent. let's just assume for the fact here of not putting this gentleman into the equation but understanding. dagestan along with four other repolitics in the north caucasus region have direct ties to al qaeda and terrorist groups that have direct ties to afghani terrorists. this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the unit
one worshipper described tamerlan, "he's crazy to me. he had anger inside. i can't explain what was in his mind." an aunt describes him as a chechen that became more devout as a muslim in the last couple years. friends of his wife and his brother say he brainwashed them. i'm joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let's set the scene. would it be fair to...
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tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman mike rogers, now we have more information about some evidence of him sort of dropping out of society, as it were, information after he comes back from foreign travel, postings on his youtube account and other social media indicating that he had exposure to jihadist elements whether that's connect canned to chechnya and the struggles there or otherwise. what do you know this morning and what do you want to know? >> it's important to understand why, in fact, the fbi interviewed him in the first place. so they had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were con
tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman...
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tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don't believe they are have. her lawyer says he's in touch with the federal authorities now trying to work out details of that. they are going to get to her. they will interview her. she, she can be subpoenaed if necessary. so that, that will be done. >> and there are conflicting reports of extensive reporting and a
tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as...
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where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we have reports from radical tendencies even from people within his own mosque. who was he in contact with in the boston area? i think those are the biggest questions now facing investigators and people looking at how the fbi handled this case. >> michael isikoff, i got to leave it there. you're right. we got to figure out did the kgb not tell our guys or russian intelligence not tell our guys everything that they knew at the time? and will they tell us now? anyway, michael, thank you very much. >>> gaggle will be here next. running a little bit late. fi
where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we...
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tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated pict
tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we...
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if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the military commission law. 20, it exempts american citizens. so there is that. they could hold him indefinitely. that has to be done, maybe, and maybe not because he is a civilian. that's a question the supreme court has not answered. the purpose has to be to keep him off the battlefield. not to interrogate him. and what you're saerg is interrogation, be to keep him off the battlefield. and point, two it is certainly possible. he is involved in a larger network of cells that may be affiliated with al qaeda. that's why the fbi has deployed interrogators. that's why they will ask him before they mirandize him
if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the...
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in a town where tsarnaev's father lived and tamerlan visited just last year. inside you can see how intense the violence must have been and here could be the clearest link yet between one of the alleged boston bombers and the violence that's been gripping southern russia. a u.s. intelligence source told cnn that tsarnaev brothers' social media accounts are being examined for possible links to extremists in the calk sass in case they reveal the darkest secrets of boston. why did the bombers do this? none of this mean tamerlan tsarnaev and dujan actually met or influenced each other but it does show the elder brother's interest in this alleged extremist activity here in dagestan, a man who died at the hands of russian special forces in a town where tamerlan's father lift and where tamerlan visited himself in 2012, so, of course, this will provide further questions investigators have to answer as they begin to look into any possible motive to this alleged bomber's actions. nick paton walsh. makhachkala, southern russia. >> all right, nick, thank you very much. wo
in a town where tsarnaev's father lived and tamerlan visited just last year. inside you can see how intense the violence must have been and here could be the clearest link yet between one of the alleged boston bombers and the violence that's been gripping southern russia. a u.s. intelligence source told cnn that tsarnaev brothers' social media accounts are being examined for possible links to extremists in the calk sass in case they reveal the darkest secrets of boston. why did the bombers do...
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the fbi has also asked to speak with the wife of the older brother tamerlan. she is in a home in rhode island with her parents. her lawyer is now discussing how they will move forward. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in boston. thank you, susan. >>> for now federal officials have decided not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. miranda rights inform criminals of their right to remain silent and their right to an attorney. this is allowed on a limited basis when the public may be in immediate danger, and there are those like senator lindsey graham who say tsarnaev should be consideredn enemy combatant so he can waive his right. others disagree. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need it to get him into a trial. i don't think we have to cross the line and say he's an enemy combatant which could be challenged in court. one circuit rules one way, one rules the other way. >> we should reserve the right to look at him as an enemy combatant and continue to look for evidence and if we find evidence and go to him as chuck says and gather intelligence. >> now the s
the fbi has also asked to speak with the wife of the older brother tamerlan. she is in a home in rhode island with her parents. her lawyer is now discussing how they will move forward. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in boston. thank you, susan. >>> for now federal officials have decided not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. miranda rights inform criminals of their right to remain silent and their right to an attorney. this is allowed on a limited basis when the public may be in...
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he looked up to older brother, tamerlan, who seemed to feel a little less at ease. on the surface, the tsarnaev brothers looked like an immigrant success story. 26-year-old tamerlan studied engineering, was married with a 2-year-old daughter and a golden gloves heavyweight champion. >> his plans were to be a very successful businessman. year-old dzhokhar, a star wrestler in high school, was a at umass-dartmouth. he became a u.s. citizen last year on september 11th. his college friends told "60 minutes" scott pelley he was interested in cars and soccer and they never saw him at a mosque or prayers. >> if someone a few days ago told me that one of my friends was responsible for the bombs, bombing in boston, i would have named off at least 90% of everyone that i know before i would have said dzhokhar. >> reporter: the brothers arrived in the u.s. in 2002 with their parents and two sisters. seeking refuge from the violence between the russian military and muslim separatists in their native chechnya. their mother denies they were responsible for the bombings. >> my young
he looked up to older brother, tamerlan, who seemed to feel a little less at ease. on the surface, the tsarnaev brothers looked like an immigrant success story. 26-year-old tamerlan studied engineering, was married with a 2-year-old daughter and a golden gloves heavyweight champion. >> his plans were to be a very successful businessman. year-old dzhokhar, a star wrestler in high school, was a at umass-dartmouth. he became a u.s. citizen last year on september 11th. his college friends...
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tamerlan visited a year ago. their father still lives there. and a youtube video uncovered exclusively by cnn may hold some clues as to a motive. nick paton walsh joins us now from dagestan to explain what is in this youtube clip. >> absolutely. shortly after his return from russia to the united states, tamerlan tsarnaev posted on his youtube channel a link to a video of an extremist who was killed not far from where i'm standing by russian special forces. just last december. is there a connection between this gun fight involving militant and police in dagestan, and one of the boston bombers? the you if tube page of deceased brother tamerlan tsarnaev suggests there might be. he put up a link to a video titled abu dujana. the video was removed but cnn has now found it, and it shows this man. abu dujana is the name used by an islamist militant. gadzhimurad dolgatov. russian special forces hit the hideout last december. an armored car brought in to kill as many as six militants inside, including doll go atf. the grisly aftermath showing their heav
tamerlan visited a year ago. their father still lives there. and a youtube video uncovered exclusively by cnn may hold some clues as to a motive. nick paton walsh joins us now from dagestan to explain what is in this youtube clip. >> absolutely. shortly after his return from russia to the united states, tamerlan tsarnaev posted on his youtube channel a link to a video of an extremist who was killed not far from where i'm standing by russian special forces. just last december. is there a...
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tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became radicalized in cambridge and not overseas and eventually drew in his younger brother. a lot of questions how to handle the remaining suspect. >> david wrote, you wrote about the culprits. >> yeah, i spent friday looking at a lot of the youtube web sites and so on that had been visited by tamerlan and they were -- they were all jihadists. no question he was spending a lot of time looking at and listening to really highly radical islamist preachers, video that al qaeda has put out and not so private interest. he was talking about this with a circle of friends both at his mos
tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became...
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now we're not saying that tamerlan tsarnaev ever met abu dijan. it is just very interesting that he linked to a video of this man shortly after he, in fact, himself had been in the same city of that now deceased militant. john? >> nick, you're doing terrific reporting from the region. really help putting the pieces of this puzzle together. just a short while ago you spoke to the suspect's aunt. what did she have to say? >> well, his aunt had a couple of interesting things to say. i think the thing that stood out the most was that she herself was surprised to see tamerlan return to dagestan last year. very much a devout muslim. she almost joked she was worried he would go to america and take up drink or drugs. but, in fact, he adopted the muslim faith there. came back devout. wouldn't look women he raent related to in the eye, and talked a lot about the central role of religion in life. another interesting fact, too, she came out with, the family, in fact, came back from kurdistan to chechnya, just near from where i'm standing, before the second ch
now we're not saying that tamerlan tsarnaev ever met abu dijan. it is just very interesting that he linked to a video of this man shortly after he, in fact, himself had been in the same city of that now deceased militant. john? >> nick, you're doing terrific reporting from the region. really help putting the pieces of this puzzle together. just a short while ago you spoke to the suspect's aunt. what did she have to say? >> well, his aunt had a couple of interesting things to say. i...
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meanwhile, the older brother, tamerlan, who is now dead, was married and has a child. his wife is said to be in the providence, rhode island, area, and was apparently informed of all of this by television, so she right now is considering speaking with authorities but has not done that at this point as far as we know. >> nbc's chris pollone from boston. thanks. >>> will, the fact that the alleged bombers were born overseas is shaping the discussion over immigration. republican senator chuck grassley says congress needs to take a step back in the debate. to ensure the nation's security comes first. comments were he echoed by dan co coates on sunday. >> how can we beef up security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? >> usually end up with bad policy if you do it in an international way or reaction. we saw some things post-9/11 that were enacted if we had more time to think this through, perhaps we wouldn't have h
meanwhile, the older brother, tamerlan, who is now dead, was married and has a child. his wife is said to be in the providence, rhode island, area, and was apparently informed of all of this by television, so she right now is considering speaking with authorities but has not done that at this point as far as we know. >> nbc's chris pollone from boston. thanks. >>> will, the fact that the alleged bombers were born overseas is shaping the discussion over immigration. republican...
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the suspects were identified add the two brothers tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. arthel neville, fox news. >>> chief, thank you for being with us this weekend. you must be exhausted. >> i am pretty tired, judge. >> let me where that ended. sean collier is caught on the campus at 10:20. when do the gun shots and explosions in watertown start? >> they start approximately 12:25 a.m. >> what is the first thing you hear about? how do you know there are gun shots? >> i like to tell the officer's story. they were on the street and we knew there was the execution of the mit police officer. we knew there was a car jacking and as a result of that vehicle we had gps updates from cambridge telling us where the vehicle was. it was heading ward watertown and that it was actually in watertown. that's when we began to go into watertown to find the vehicle in the east. >> were your officers alone at that time? were you assisted by the fbi and atf state police were joined by the hunt? >> all of the ages agencies wer given the same update we were in boston and cambridge it was our o
the suspects were identified add the two brothers tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. arthel neville, fox news. >>> chief, thank you for being with us this weekend. you must be exhausted. >> i am pretty tired, judge. >> let me where that ended. sean collier is caught on the campus at 10:20. when do the gun shots and explosions in watertown start? >> they start approximately 12:25 a.m. >> what is the first thing you hear about? how do you know there are gun shots?...
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him after a dramatic d to friday's mat, the brder investigfocuses on his older brother. 26-year-old tamerlan died in a shootout with police. last year, he traveled overseas to russia and chechnya and began linking to jihadist videos online. some wonder why he fell off the fbi's radar after they questioned him about possible terror ties two years ago. >> somehow, he got off the radar screen and traveled overseas to one of the most dangerous parts of the world. >> reporter: the bombings left three dead and dozens injured. many are still in the hospital. yesterday, boston remembered the victims and prayed for healing. >> forgiveness does not mean that we do not realize the heinousness of the crime. but, in our own hearts, when we're unable to forgive, we make ourselves a victim of our own hatred. >> reporter: and charges are expected to be filed soon in the case. john and diana? >> one big focus is the trip overseas to russia that the older brother took. have we learned anything else about that trip? >> reporter: well, we foe investigators are definitely focusing in on that. they feel that was
him after a dramatic d to friday's mat, the brder investigfocuses on his older brother. 26-year-old tamerlan died in a shootout with police. last year, he traveled overseas to russia and chechnya and began linking to jihadist videos online. some wonder why he fell off the fbi's radar after they questioned him about possible terror ties two years ago. >> somehow, he got off the radar screen and traveled overseas to one of the most dangerous parts of the world. >> reporter: the...
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and what was his brother tamerlan doing when he flew to russia last january, then visited his father in dagestan? did that trip have anything to do with the bombing or his radicalization? as for the boston marathon bombings themselves, those who have seen a still unrelated surveillance video acquired by the fbi say it shows dzhokhar tsarnaev removing his backpack at the spot where the second bomb was placed and acting very differently from those around him when the first bomb went off. >> it does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down, did not react when the first explosion went off, and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion. so pretty clear about his involvement, and pretty chilling, frankly, as it was described to me. >> again, that was pete williams reporting. as we mentioned earlier in this newscast, police say the brothers carjacked an suv thursday night and held the car's owner at gunpoint. and tonight the carjacking victim tells nbc news he escaped when they stopped at a gas station. he described them as, quote
and what was his brother tamerlan doing when he flew to russia last january, then visited his father in dagestan? did that trip have anything to do with the bombing or his radicalization? as for the boston marathon bombings themselves, those who have seen a still unrelated surveillance video acquired by the fbi say it shows dzhokhar tsarnaev removing his backpack at the spot where the second bomb was placed and acting very differently from those around him when the first bomb went off. >>...
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. >>> the main focus of the investigation is turning to why the older brother, tamerlan, killed in a shootout with police early friday morning traveled to russia for six months last year. the fbi also admits they interviewed him in 2011 raising questions as to whether possible warning signs were missed. >>> we're also learning this morning an incredible story from a man who witnessed two explosions in just one week. the boston marathon and the fertilizer plant explosion in west, texas. joe berti ran the marathon and crossed the finish line just 30 seconds before the first explosion. then he and his wife headed back home to texas. >> you see a picture of a nuclear explosion, and that's what it looked like. it was massive. on the left side of the highway. and i was obviously shocked to see another explosion after having just come back from boston. >> and thankfully both of them are okay. later today on the "today" show, nbc pete williams will have a live report with the latest on the boston marathon terror . suspect. >>> and from vertical gardens and eco-friendly fashions and party ide
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government about tamerlan sang there was a possibility he was being radicalized. the fbi interviewed him and his family concluded there was nothing there and closed the case. he then made six month trip to russia in 2012 but his exact whereabouts and activities are unclear. after that trip, he posted radical islamic videos on his view to. as you can see on this video. could the fbi have done more to prevent what happened at the boston marathon way back in 2010-- 2011 and 12. >> we're taking a live look at the funeral of one of the three was killed in the boston marathon attack. crystal campbell was a 29 year-old restaurant worker. later tonight, a memorial service will be held at boston university for 22 year-old grad student lu lingzi, another victim. >> she was also killed in the bombing. light coming to us from boston. >> more on first baseman brandon moss and right fielder joshed rediuck hope to meet with 11 year-old a aron hern, the martinez will injured in the boston marathon bombings at boston's children's hospital. the a's fall to boston last night was sta
government about tamerlan sang there was a possibility he was being radicalized. the fbi interviewed him and his family concluded there was nothing there and closed the case. he then made six month trip to russia in 2012 but his exact whereabouts and activities are unclear. after that trip, he posted radical islamic videos on his view to. as you can see on this video. could the fbi have done more to prevent what happened at the boston marathon way back in 2010-- 2011 and 12. >> we're...